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Act 46 (House Bill 628)

Page 9:

18 "School entity" shall mean a school district, an intermediate
19 unit, a joint school district, an area vocational-technical
20 school, a charter school, the Scotland School for Veterans'
21 Children and the Scranton School for the Deaf or any of these
22 acting jointly.


Page 23:

11 "School entity." A school district, joint school district,
12 independent school or an intermediate unit.


Page 29:

8 "School entity." A school district or an area vocational-
9 technical school.


Pages 78-79

29 "school entity" is defined by
30 the "Professional Educator Discipline Act" for the first
1 violation of this subsection.


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Act 114 of 2006 (House Bill 185) Note: the doc itself states it's from the 2005 session, although the Project 720 site places it in 2006... go figure!

-- provides rules on concurrent enrollment (aka dual enrollment) for school entities, but my search didn't turn up a definition of school entity within the document

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Act 45 (House Bill 842)

Page 18:

28 "School entity." A school district, joint school district,
29 independent school or an intermediate unit.


Page 53 includes a section that details the funding for cyber charter schools.

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Reference:

PA Bulletin [38 Pa.B. 872] [Saturday, February 16, 2008]


School entity--A local public education provider (for example, public school district, charter school, cyber charter school, AVTS or intermediate unit).

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Date: 2008-02-21 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrixa.livejournal.com
Okay, the cyber school must fit in there somewhere. Doesn't matter where. Because it's results are accepted, it can at the least be said to be acting jointly... the cs gets its funding from? to pay for the computers, hook-ups etc? If it is the DoE that supplies funding, then they are accepting it as a school entity.

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Date: 2008-02-21 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
Okay, the cyber school must fit in there somewhere.

It is. Ref. Act 45 (House Bill 842 page 53) and 38 Pa B. 872. Cyber schools are mentioned in both documents.

Doesn't matter where.

Actually, that's rather the whole point. It does matter where.

That is what needs to be found, explained, and quite possibly changed.

Because it's results are accepted, it can at the least be said to be acting jointly

I'd have to hire a lawyer to see if these - or any of the other parts of the PA code state that. My legal team is small (me, Justin, Deb, and a friend in another state who happens to be a lawyer and answered a question for me), and my budget is constrained to a few hours of browse time. At least, at the moment. When I hear back from the PDE, I'll be able to evaluate what the next steps are.

the cs gets its funding from?

In part? Ref. Act 45 (House Bill 842 page 53)

I expect that's only part of the picture, and, as with the prior question, an attorney would be required to track down the full story.

If it is the DoE that supplies funding, then they are accepting it as a school entity.

While that might seem like the logical conclusion, and while I intend that to be the conclusion, the point remains that in the spots where "cyber charter school" is not amongst the others as defined as a "school entity" than it is not, for the purposes of that legislation, a "school entity".

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If you'll notice, NH law (see Chapter 195-A Authorized Regional Enrollment Area (Area) Schools for an example) also includes definitions, and notes that those definitions apply unless a different meaning is clearly apparent from the language or context which means that there is a chance that, even within the document, the definition of a word may be different. Which seems to me like an even bigger can o' worms there than what exists in the PA documents, where the definitions are clearly stated in each section.

Me, I just want to see some of those definitions of "school entity" broadened to include "cyber charter schools".

That's all. I don't have a great big need to wring out the entire legal system so it makes logical sense. That would probably break more things than it would fix. =)

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Date: 2008-02-21 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrixa.livejournal.com
Good gods! The more you explain, the more muddled I get!

FCOL* :-{

What is wrong with the DoE that it is so contrary?! And from what you say, in NH, too? and so probably most other states as well?

*For Cryin' Out Loud

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Date: 2008-02-21 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
What is wrong with the DoE that it is so contrary?

Well, first, they're not known as the DoE in this parts, and your continued calling them the Department of Energy has them somewhat muddled and confused.

Secondly, this is the state legislature you're talking about. Heaps and bunches of lawyers. And a state code that has been evolving since 1682 or so. I'm not sure those folks had a deep grasp of "cyber charter schools" back then.

In other cases, some members of the legislature have been known to dislike the whole concept of cyber charter schools, and certainly, some school districts share that dislike, as it takes away funding for students they don't have.

It's politics and lawyers, and you're wondering why?

For the record, I'm spending more effort trying to de-confuse you than I am on resolving the issue at hand.

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Date: 2008-02-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrixa.livejournal.com
E = Education; I figured that was easy enough to figure out. I believe I saw it as DOE in an earlier blog of yours.

For the record: I thought, via your long blogs, you had lots of time on your hands

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