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Still grinding data on the whole Dubai Port World/damn furriners runnin' arr ports controversy.

Surprisingly, I was in agreement with the Shrub at first. Still partially there. Not at all in agreement with how he's handling it, except to say that the more he continues to be publicly caught saying stupid things, the better that is for all concerned, at least, right up until he gets elected for a third term, or gets the rest of the world even more pissed off at us than they already are.

Anywho.

This NY Times article (and a gazillion other alternatives) is the first real indication I've had that the deal may not be a good thing.

Some reasoning is still as false as ever: the Coast Guard is worried about "the potential for foreign influences over the American ports..." Guess what UK citizens? You're not foreigners here in America! We've annexed you! The core issue here is that this isn't taking (or even buying) anything away from a flag-waving American company (who are busily outsourcing and offshoring and basically getting cheap labor from other countries to wave those flags for them,) but from another foreign company.

Both foreign companies - seller and buyer - are our allies. We trust the UAE to park our aircraft carriers, and the valets there hardly ever take them for a spin around the gulf.

The second issue is that of terminology - terminalology, really. These aren't whole, entire ports that are being sold. These are terminals. The company is named Dubai Ports World, which quite clearly uses the word "Port", but they don't control the whole entire port. Whether or not the terminals in question form a significant portion of the incoming traffic is another issue - it may be that one terminal in NYC takes in 100% of the incoming freight into NYC, but I rather doubt it.

Another similar issue is confusing a company with a government - Dubai Ports World is not UAE, just like Halliburton is not the USofA. Well, bad example maybe.

This article from UPI actually adds bunches of information that seems to be getting cut from the stuff reaching the masses, and has both more and less FUD. 21 ports vs. 6. Seems to be a pattern that even when this administration, referred to by the Shrub as "his government," allows information to escape, it never lets go of it all at once. Unlike certain situations involving hobbits, dwarves, werebears, and wizards, this slowly dolling out of information - giving more benefit of the doubt than they're worth that they're not simply losing control of withholding it - is not a good thing to do to a people who once were allegedly in charge of their own government.

"We have a difference of opinion on the interpretation of your amendment" - That's a scary-as-hell quote. That's the Treasury Department Deputy Secretary vs. Congress. I take that "We" to mean "his government" and the "your" to mean everyone else.

Another alarming bit from the article: 3000 "ports" in the country and they have no clue how many are foreign-owned. Makes me feel secure. Security through obscurity, I suppose.

According to the Council for Foreign Relations, it could all come down to a pissed off, underpaid truck driver - naturally, only Arab countries have those, the trucklorry drivers in the UK are all smiles and patriotic to the US to a T, as are those from all the other foreign countries that ship us stuff or own our "ports." Not to mention our own batch of truck drivers, who would never stoop to such behavior...

So what's good about the deal?

I suppose it's not anywhere near as alarming as if Halliburton was buying the ports...

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Date: 2006-02-27 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opakele.livejournal.com
This is very well researched and I appreciate you doing it. However, I don't wish to be rational. The man is an IDIOT.

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Date: 2006-02-27 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
Certainly. This issue is not the man, though. And it's not even hiring a guy from the company to work at a post in "his government."

Fergitted to mention that last point - that's probably one of the biggest doubt-raising, alarm-setting-off kind of things about this whole, erm, thing.

That actually is pretty durn close to selling it to Halliburton. It's all about lining pocketses.

What's it got in its pocketses, we wonders, yes, we wonders...

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Date: 2006-02-27 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbyrd2.livejournal.com
Just speed browsing my flist, because there's two pages of posts on it suddenly, and wanted to comment briefly here;

I'd read in one of my links (which could be wrong, obviously) that DP is actually state owned, which means that yes, it is, actually, owned by UAE.

Apart from that, I'm right with you on this. But you've seen that already. :)

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Date: 2006-02-27 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
I suspected it might be state-owned, but you'd think more of the diligent reporters out there might include something like that in their stories... =)

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Date: 2006-02-28 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kk1raven.livejournal.com
Most of the articles I've read about it have mentioned that the company is owned by the government of Dubai.

I have a problem with having foreigners of any sort taking control of parts of the infrastructure of our country. I just don't think it is a good idea. That's not exactly a new thing though.

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Date: 2006-02-28 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
I think most people have that same sort of feeling, and that's why the uproar is so loud and sudden.

Really, some of the uproar should have happened when a foreign company bought the terminal in the first place.

Either that, or just remove the whole concept of foreigners, countries, and other human constructs.

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Date: 2006-02-28 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrixa.livejournal.com
Well, as a child, I always saw the future as one world, socialist (didn't know the term then, but to each according to need made sense to me) and not divided into countries, but perhaps regions. Long before Star Wars of any kind, long before moon trips and well before I read science fiction, I thought that the earth would only host a limited amount of people; governments would coalesce as a practical device and health and education (religious freedom did not occupy much of my mind as I thought it was already a given, imagine my surprise when I learned otherwise) would be for all. And, of course, I thought most everyone would be honest and reliable. Sometimes it is very hard and discombobulating to live in this world!

Now, re the port issue: I think the executive shrubbery are wrong about pretty near everything and that they speak with forked tongue and your children and grandchildren will pay for their shallowness and lack of foresight.

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